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Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 08:17:00 - [1] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/08/2007 08:20:58 Eve has a lot to learn from Wow... Let's just give the simplest example : user interface... As far as the battlegrounds idea is concerned, if part of the factional warfare could be like it (pvp missions, where you have to accomplish an objective in opposing team from different empires)... it would be one of the greatest way to bring people to start PvP. Enough with the anti-Wow threads... yeah, Wow has a different PvP side from Eve, and people playing here because it appeals to them more than Pvp from there. But on a lot of aspects, Eve is inferior to Wow. UI and PvE to mind... An equivalent to Wow battlegrounds would bring people to start pew pew in Eve. Actually, that was how I thought factional warfare would be like, and that is one of the reason I look forward to it. How can more way to Pew Pew be seen as a bad thing ? And, and before the stupid rebuttal... I never played Wow... nor do I intend to. There is no lazors there. Edit : However, putting those battlegrounds in the sandbox side of Eve (null-sec) would be a bad idea... I agree a lot with that. If they are to be copied from there, their place is in factional warfare. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 08:33:00 - [2] Originally by: Zaqar Originally by: Ares Lightfeather As far as the battlegrounds idea is concerned, if part of the factional warfare could be like it (pvp missions, where you have to accomplish an objective in opposing team from different empires)... it would be one of the greatest way to bring people to start PvP. Fine, as long as there is no instancing. Everything should be done out in the open in the existing solar systems. Agreed... I always found the instance concept was stupid anyway, and played mostly games without instances in them. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 09:44:00 - [3] Originally by: Lord MuffloN Please don't compare WoW and EVE, their two totaly different games and two totaly different playerbases to cater to, and quite frankly, most don't want to spend hours and hours on something that can be undone in 30 seconds by another player, thus WoW is bigger then EVE. (Oh and, PvP in WoW was fine until BG's, they suck, their a grind). Strangely, that what people said of Wow PvP before the BG, that it was only a stupid grind of players lvl 70 VS players lvl 10... Now it's a grind of lvl 70 against lvl 70. I fail to see your point. As for the other point you have, yeah, both game are different. And why are you insisting in not adapting the parts from Wow to eve ? How bringing more ways to Pew pew can be a bad thing in EVE ? -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 10:21:00 - [4] You're claiming that the idea of arena-like, battleground where there could be "even" fights (same number of ships, same isk involved...) wouldn't work in Eve ? Here is how I see "battlegrounds" in Eve. High sec : numbers are equal, limited to a equal number of same size ships, a certain amount of isk, or something else, whatever needed to balance things out. The same missions occur in low sec. Randomly (or not) missions are created by agents, and they pit you against other players from other nation, with the possibility for pirates to jump in too... Instead of stupidly bashing whatever comes from the first MMORPG in term of subscriber, take what make it great, adapt it to eve, and propose it to CCP. Some can't be adapted, because Eve wouldn't be Eve, but even if consensual PvP, magic, elves cannot be adapted, battleground can make Eve greater than it is now. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 10:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Chrysalis D'lilth Hum sorry, that wasn't aimed at you directly. More at the Pvp carebears above... Strangely, as soon as you say that their play-style wouldn't be affected, they don't answer anymore. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 15:15:00 - [6] However, the ganker are mostly right. Eve is one of the only places where ganking still is the only way to PvP. Maybe that's what they fear for Eve... setting equivalent PvP arena in Eve might... ok will draw people asking for more interesting occupation than a gank away from their killboards. By the way, stop equating battlegrounds with instanced places where ship respawn... instance is a characteristic of WoW, respawning with no penalty is the same. The concept of a battleground in WoW is a place where people with the same number of players and about the same skills and levels meet. Making the equivalent in Eve means creating a mission where your opponents are players in about equal numbers. Others can still join the fight (ahhh, eve, and all it subtleties), especially if the missions are supposed to be in low sec. That what adapting good things from WoW means. Take away the element that make WoW what it is, put Eve element instead (being jumped by pirates during a caldari VS gallente factional warfare mission) and you'll have a great addition to a game, from another game. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.02 08:34:00 - [7] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 02/08/2007 08:37:07 Originally by: fathitman Edited by: fathitman on 02/08/2007 02:17:48 ill keep this simple WOW Is for kids or not so dedicated players. Due to its basic nature and build. EVE Is for adults, due to its complexity. Also you need to be dedicated b/c by a pod loss you could loss 1, 2, 3 months of skill training. Pathetic... fanboi to its finest. Ok,a few facts... Quote: From the survey data, the average age of the WoW player is 28.3 (SD = 8.4). Kids, at 28 years old... ok, you fail this thread. Source : 5 minutes of google search. Linkage I'm sure you could find more accurate data by searching a bit more... Note : the eve wiki says that the Eve online community is 27 years old on average... Get the conclusion you want, I'll get mine... Wow players are more mature than Eve ones. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.02 08:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Tortun Nahme "fanboi" the defense of an opposing fanboi you all get 3 LAME points to spend as you see fit, I hear george lucas has used kleenex on ebay! Learn to read the rest of the post, where I prove he's wrong. You fail too . -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.02 09:15:00 - [9] My fanboism ? I play eve because of lazors and spaceships. It's off-topic however... -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.02 09:21:00 - [10] Originally by: heheheh Originally by: Ares Lightfeather Originally by: Tortun Nahme "fanboi" the defense of an opposing fanboi you all get 3 LAME points to spend as you see fit, I hear george lucas has used kleenex on ebay! Learn to read the rest of the post, where I prove he's wrong. You fail too . A link to some lousy site is not evidence. Like this If you want more sites, it's easy to do. Type "average age of players in WoW" in google. You'll find others : http://askbobrankin.com/world_of_warcraft.html And daedalus is not "some lousy site". It has been surveying games for 8 years now... -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract

Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.18 08:17:00 - [11] Welcome to eve. The place where people use NECRO thread in order to bash Wow some more. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract

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